February 18, 2017 2:21 PM
When someone writes to you and says…
Thanks for the wonderful book. It literally saved my life.
… that’s a powerful testimonial.
I hope you’ll take the time to read our dialog in its entirety:
I have been studying Vedanta since I was 4 years old, and then started following the teachings of Ramana in my 20’s. I spent 3 years trying to trace the I-Sense to the source as Ramana suggested, which I accomplished (the witness is non-different from what is being witnessed) and I shifted to a state that was somewhat thought free and blissful. But a chance encounter with a Yogi helped me realize that this blissful state was in fact a trap and I need to go deeper to find how existential separation arises.
Right now, I am at an impasse. I can feel that the root cause of my existential separation from the world around me is focused in the heart-space and is really painful. When I meditate it is like meditating on a raw wound/open nerve and I am acutely aware that my individual personal consciousness is separate from the world around me. I spoke to my Vedanta and my Zen teacher, and they both said that my journey was finished and I should focus on living my life in accordance with Dharma. I always did that but the feeling of pain/separation is always there. I cannot make the existential pain go away.
My belief is that when we become self-aware and reflect on ourselves as a separate body-mind complex, it also makes us suffer because we now see ourselves as separate from the Original Pure Consciousness. This is what Buddha called Dhukka and Christians call the Fall.
Appreciate your thoughts and comments on how do I penetrate through this separation.
Hi Vivek, thanks for your email.
Yes, I see this a lot. What you have opened is your Mind. Wonderful! But as you realize, enlightenment doesn’t play very well with the world of separation. Often it leaves us friendless and odd to “normal” folks. Society doesn’t understand us, we don’t fit in, …
All of this is your fault of course (you read that right). 🙂
You have opened your Mind, but your Heart hasn’t opened yet. In Mystical Oneness and the Nine Aspects of Being (http://amzn.to/2fxIkYq) I advocate spiritual seekers pursue both paths at the same time, the path of the Mind and the path of the Heart. I’m not trying to “pitch” you to buy the book, but there is an entire “tier” above Witness Consciousness (the Tier of Peace). I call it the Tier of Peace because the spiritual seeker must learn to find peace with all the many paradoxes that the seeker encounters once they realize they are one with everything.
It is currently about $5 for the digital version, but will be going up to $10 at the end of the year. If it doesn’t have the answers you are looking for, just shoot me an email and I’ll refund your money.
Peace and Love (see? Mind and Heart 🙂 )
Thanks Wayne. I wrote to you before reading your book because I wanted to have no preconceived notions on what questions to ask but I will read your book now.
Thank you very much for your reply. And I will follow up with any questions later.
I enjoy looking at your photography. It’s beautiful.
Thanks for the wonderful book. It literally saved my life because the feeling of contraction was causing a serious paradox in my life. A lot of your thoughts reasonate with me including the specific terms that you use. I haven’t had the opportunity to read anything written by you until last week and I wish I had come across them earlier.
Thanks for the rational explanations of the divine. My life is so filled with the divine energy and coincidences since childhood that my wife, who is an orthodox Christian, says that if there is anybody who ‘Should” believe in the divine it should be me. But I refused to accept it because I have a PHd in Biophysics and considered myself rational. I read your book and finally see how everything fits together.
I am grateful for all your help. I am attaching our family Newsletter to tell you a little bit about me and my life in Samsara. I hope you enjoy reading it.
In friendship and love,
PS: Are you familiar with Anadi previously known as Aziz Kristoff?
Thanks so much for your email Vivek. “It literally saved my life” is a powerful testimonial! 🙂
This is my first serious work on the subject, maybe my only one, and therefore I am still largely unknown. You can do me a tremendous favor by sharing your thoughts about Mystical Oneness with your fellow and former spiritual friends (social network, online groups, former retreat participants, teachers, etc.) That would go a long ways not only for helping me, but spiritual seekers as a whole. As you see, Mystical Oneness isn’t just for newbies, but for (and I’m hearing this a lot) advanced spiritual practitioners also.
Thanks for the wonderful newsletter (well done!) and I’ll look into Anadi.
Peace to you and yours Vivek,
I will write a review about your book on Amazon and tell my friends about it. In fact, one of my Vedanta friends suggested that I read your book.
That said, there is no substitute for face to face meetings so at some point in time you might have to do that full time :). Books can only take you so far especially if you are a beginner. But having students comes with its own headaches so it’s your call to make.
Conrad is a good friend of mine, and he was the one that showed me the path beyond the mind is through the heart but it was so painful that I couldn’t practice it. But I had moved beyond the mind so I was in no mans land until your book, which gave me a clue on how to proceed. I had decided to take Kali as my personal deity but didn’t know how to access that part of myself until your book. I can also see now why nobody teaches the way of the Heart. It’s painful and does not make good business sense because pain doesn’t sell well.
This is his blog below:
Finished the review on Amazon and told a few people I know to buy the book. Would love to catch up with you face to face one of these days!
Even UG Krishnamurti despite his protests did meet people.
And I just realized that the I-Sense teaching by Ramana and Nissargadatta Maharaj Accomplishes the same thing as your Witness Consciousness teaching by connecting the personal and external parts of the mind.
Watching the I-Sense and tracing it back to the source by constantly watching it, accomplishes the same thing as your hypothesis. It is also exactly like the Gateless Gate, where you realize the seeker and sought are the same.
I know I come from a different background than these great teachers, but I know we are seeing the same thing. You too. We each “taint” our vision with our interpretation (culture, education, etc) but the Light is the Light. 🙂
Practically every authentic awakening experience and description of the Vastness (Emptiness, Stillness, Presence, …) seems to point to the merging of the Personal and the Impersonal which of course opens the door for the Manifest/Unmanifest, Divine/Individual, …. So cool. We live in a wonderful age.
I started worshiping Kali on the advice of your book, and the entire experience has been life changing. I think the very fact of being humble enough to ask the Goddess for help changes your perspective on life.
It is very intoxicating these days to pray to Kali. I never prayed in my life and was very influenced by J Krishnamurti and Advaita/Zen traditions that pushed me away from the Bhakti path.
I see the value in your teachings. The Heart and Mind have to grow in sync, otherwise you will be unbalanced.
Thank you once again, and now I see that everything is the play of Kali.
Thank-you Vivek. May I use this thread for a blog post? I think a lot of my readers would find the exchange heartwarming and informative. If you’d like, I’ll remove your name and just call you “V”. No email info of course.
No problem Wayne. You can call me Vivek, it’s a common Indian name.
I am happy that you replied and gave me the link to your book. I am grateful for that book and the wisdom contained herein.
Thanks Vivek. It’s accounts like yours that make all this worthwhile.
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